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davidn2161
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My gut instinct says yes on that ticket. The seller has 100% feedback, and claims the ticket/autograph story was published in a magazine in 2007. No one is that stupid to claim something got published on a specific autograph if it didn't. Even if I had the money and it was definitely real, I don't think I would buy it. Just too sad.
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khalerhett
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Ok guys, I really need your help here. I will be purchasing tickets for my 1st TNA houseshow but I dont have much money now so I am thinking of getting other seats instead of front row. I know with front row you can meet wrestlers before the show but is it really worth it? or is there a chance to meet wrestlers after the show or do they sale backstage passes at the event? I know I'll have money for then which is in November but can I still buy backstage passes then or should I just try to buy front row right now?
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If I had the money to spend I would be all over it. The signature is definitely legit. While there are a few differences in the signature on the ticket at the signature on my IP 8x10 from Febuary '99 the curvature is precise and the strokes on the hard writing match. That ticket is one of the few Holy Grail items in wrestling collectibles. If I had to, I'd liken that for wrestling what the 1984 Chicago Bulls preseason opener against the Pacers ticket signed by Michael Jordan in basketball, or the game used bat from the day The Babe called his shot at Yankees Stadium in baseball.
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CubsFanKEC1982
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The story on the Owen ticket is great and all, but there's no proof. It doesn't look like the ticket has been authenticated. Even though there are similarities to an Owen signature, there are plenty of fake Mickey Mantles out there that can take you for a loop.
Without the proper proof, I don't see anyone taking a $3,500 shot in the dark.
Not saying I don't believe this guy's story. Just saying you have to stay on the side of caution when purchasing autographs on eBay, especially one this pricey and supposedly from this day.
Without the proper proof, I don't see anyone taking a $3,500 shot in the dark.
Not saying I don't believe this guy's story. Just saying you have to stay on the side of caution when purchasing autographs on eBay, especially one this pricey and supposedly from this day.
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mrmickiejames
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Personally I dont like the Owen ticket and never have. Doesnt seem right to me.
As for Jericho, I tried him VV during a Fozzy tour in the UK, no dice. As has been mentioned, he signs for VIP'ers so its not a surprise.
And Hogan TTM? No address will ever be worth trying.
As for Jericho, I tried him VV during a Fozzy tour in the UK, no dice. As has been mentioned, he signs for VIP'ers so its not a surprise.
And Hogan TTM? No address will ever be worth trying.
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warlordforever04
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youeatrocks
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yeah if the guy wants that much money for the owen hart ticket, he should send it off to be authenticated. i'm partial to it as well.
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There's a photo included in the item description where the ticket and an article was published regarding it in a collectors magazine, any piece that receives that kind of press in a collectors publication has been checked. Like I said before aside from very minor curvature differences, mostly due to the difference in marker type, it looks really similar to an autograph I got at a signing just two months prior to when this was signed. When I found this listing the first thing I did was pull up my picture and then search for other Owen Hart autographs that looked similar to mine and it matches up nicely.
Honestly, I've seen worse examples of 'autographs' posted on this forum that our resident 'expert' (term used lightly) said look legit when they look nothing like authentic signatures. What about the story doesn't sound right? Owen Hart was at that event, that's the actual ticket to the event, and Owen had a great reputation for making time for the fans. Are we going to have to break it down to a point where from now on autographs are only authentic when posting an accompanying photo with them? In that case every autograph anyone has ever posted on this thread is fake unless there was a photo of the poster or a photo of the item being signed.
I agree that if the seller is going to ask the price he is then he should get it authenticated, but the same thing the authenticators are going to do in authenticating it is look at known previously authenticated autographs.
Honestly, I've seen worse examples of 'autographs' posted on this forum that our resident 'expert' (term used lightly) said look legit when they look nothing like authentic signatures. What about the story doesn't sound right? Owen Hart was at that event, that's the actual ticket to the event, and Owen had a great reputation for making time for the fans. Are we going to have to break it down to a point where from now on autographs are only authentic when posting an accompanying photo with them? In that case every autograph anyone has ever posted on this thread is fake unless there was a photo of the poster or a photo of the item being signed.
I agree that if the seller is going to ask the price he is then he should get it authenticated, but the same thing the authenticators are going to do in authenticating it is look at known previously authenticated autographs.
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mrmickiejames
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Im not sure if you just worded it badly, but it wasnt an article about the piece, it was an article about deaths in wrestling, and the ticket is only shown as a throwaway "item signed hours before his death". The seller even states it was his own article being published. The magazine likely wouldve done minimal (if any) checks on the sig, because its irrelevant to the piece as a whole.roulette wrote:There's a photo included in the item description where the ticket and an article was published regarding it in a collectors magazine, any piece that receives that kind of press in a collectors publication has been checked. Like I said before aside from very minor curvature differences, mostly due to the difference in marker type, it looks really similar to an autograph I got at a signing just two months prior to when this was signed. When I found this listing the first thing I did was pull up my picture and then search for other Owen Hart autographs that looked similar to mine and it matches up nicely.
Honestly, I've seen worse examples of 'autographs' posted on this forum that our resident 'expert' (term used lightly) said look legit when they look nothing like authentic signatures. What about the story doesn't sound right? Owen Hart was at that event, that's the actual ticket to the event, and Owen had a great reputation for making time for the fans. Are we going to have to break it down to a point where from now on autographs are only authentic when posting an accompanying photo with them? In that case every autograph anyone has ever posted on this thread is fake unless there was a photo of the poster or a photo of the item being signed.
I agree that if the seller is going to ask the price he is then he should get it authenticated, but the same thing the authenticators are going to do in authenticating it is look at known previously authenticated autographs.
I dont think you can use the magazine as any proof/reasoning/support that its legit at all.
(Im not being hostile to you by the way, Im just aware that sometimes my typing can come across that way, so putting this just to be safe!)
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CubsFanKEC1982
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Just would like to make a point on the "it'd must've been checked out to have been published as an article in a magazine" statement. That's not at all true.roulette wrote:There's a photo included in the item description where the ticket and an article was published regarding it in a collectors magazine, any piece that receives that kind of press in a collectors publication has been checked.
Unfortunately in journalism, there are many editors and writers, especially for niche publications, that are willing to try to break a story without proper documentation just to attract new readers to their product.
It's a sad state, but some in the industry I work in won't hesitate to let fact-checking get in the way of the a good story.
Again, I caution anyone on here that would think of spending that type of change without having more than a guy with a ticket stub and a story. There needs to be more documentation to go with an autograph that one is wanting $3,500 for.
For all I know, the autograph could be legit. The story seems to add up, but without proper documentation, you've basically got a used ticket stub that was written on by someone.
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