How to discern PP, AP and authentic autographs?

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Re: How to discern PP, AP and authentic autographs?

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LARams wrote:
Hartster wrote:For autopens, make a scan or a copy and overlay it with another scan or a copy (especially if the person doesn't sign your stuff, but sends out the same photo to everybody, but may be signed in a different spot.) If it's an autopen, there may be some variation if the machine shifts, but it'll match exactly.

Presidents, government officials and astronauts are the ones most likely to use the autopen.

For preprints, if the signature looks flat and there's no variation in strokes, no depth to the writing, then it's part of the photos. Studio Fan Mail sends out preprints, but others do too, especially if they don't sign your stuff but send you a "signed" photo anyway.

A lot of celebrities who don't sign authentically but send out a "signed" photo will send out a preprint, not an autopen (as you need a special machine.)

Presidents also are most likely to send out preprints or autopens but with a secretarial doing the dedication. Astronaut crew photos, too, have been spotted with autopenned signatures but an inscription in someone else's hand.

Gene Wilder was rumored to have used a secretary, particularly later on as he was getting ill. So is John Travolta, despite an address on his website asking fans to send fan mail to. Avery Brooks is another one; there's one key difference between his secretary and a genuine Brooks.
Thanks for the great post! I was looking for an answer like this :)
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Re: How to discern PP, AP and authentic autographs?

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LARams wrote:
Hartster wrote:For autopens, make a scan or a copy and overlay it with another scan or a copy (especially if the person doesn't sign your stuff, but sends out the same photo to everybody, but may be signed in a different spot.) If it's an autopen, there may be some variation if the machine shifts, but it'll match exactly.

Presidents, government officials and astronauts are the ones most likely to use the autopen.

For preprints, if the signature looks flat and there's no variation in strokes, no depth to the writing, then it's part of the photos. Studio Fan Mail sends out preprints, but others do too, especially if they don't sign your stuff but send you a "signed" photo anyway.

A lot of celebrities who don't sign authentically but send out a "signed" photo will send out a preprint, not an autopen (as you need a special machine.)

Presidents also are most likely to send out preprints or autopens but with a secretarial doing the dedication. Astronaut crew photos, too, have been spotted with autopenned signatures but an inscription in someone else's hand.

Gene Wilder was rumored to have used a secretary, particularly later on as he was getting ill. So is John Travolta, despite an address on his website asking fans to send fan mail to. Avery Brooks is another one; there's one key difference between his secretary and a genuine Brooks.
Thanks for the great post! I was looking for an answer like this :)
mushroom
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Re: How to discern PP, AP and authentic autographs?

Post by mushroom »

LARams wrote:
Hartster wrote:For autopens, make a scan or a copy and overlay it with another scan or a copy (especially if the person doesn't sign your stuff, but sends out the same photo to everybody, but may be signed in a different spot.) If it's an autopen, there may be some variation if the machine shifts, but it'll match exactly.

Presidents, government officials and astronauts are the ones most likely to use the autopen.

For preprints, if the signature looks flat and there's no variation in strokes, no depth to the writing, then it's part of the photos. Studio Fan Mail sends out preprints, but others do too, especially if they don't sign your stuff but send you a "signed" photo anyway.

A lot of celebrities who don't sign authentically but send out a "signed" photo will send out a preprint, not an autopen (as you need a special machine.)

Presidents also are most likely to send out preprints or autopens but with a secretarial doing the dedication. Astronaut crew photos, too, have been spotted with autopenned signatures but an inscription in someone else's hand.

Gene Wilder was rumored to have used a secretary, particularly later on as he was getting ill. So is John Travolta, despite an address on his website asking fans to send fan mail to. Avery Brooks is another one; there's one key difference between his secretary and a genuine Brooks.
Thanks for the great post! I was looking for an answer like this :)
mushroom
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Re: How to discern PP, AP and authentic autographs?

Post by mushroom »

LARams wrote:
Hartster wrote:For autopens, make a scan or a copy and overlay it with another scan or a copy (especially if the person doesn't sign your stuff, but sends out the same photo to everybody, but may be signed in a different spot.) If it's an autopen, there may be some variation if the machine shifts, but it'll match exactly.

Presidents, government officials and astronauts are the ones most likely to use the autopen.

For preprints, if the signature looks flat and there's no variation in strokes, no depth to the writing, then it's part of the photos. Studio Fan Mail sends out preprints, but others do too, especially if they don't sign your stuff but send you a "signed" photo anyway.

A lot of celebrities who don't sign authentically but send out a "signed" photo will send out a preprint, not an autopen (as you need a special machine.)

Presidents also are most likely to send out preprints or autopens but with a secretarial doing the dedication. Astronaut crew photos, too, have been spotted with autopenned signatures but an inscription in someone else's hand.

Gene Wilder was rumored to have used a secretary, particularly later on as he was getting ill. So is John Travolta, despite an address on his website asking fans to send fan mail to. Avery Brooks is another one; there's one key difference between his secretary and a genuine Brooks.
Thanks for the great post! I was looking for an answer like this :)
mushroom
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Re: How to discern PP, AP and authentic autographs?

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mushroom wrote:
LARams wrote:
Hartster wrote:For autopens, make a scan or a copy and overlay it with another scan or a copy (especially if the person doesn't sign your stuff, but sends out the same photo to everybody, but may be signed in a different spot.) If it's an autopen, there may be some variation if the machine shifts, but it'll match exactly.

Presidents, government officials and astronauts are the ones most likely to use the autopen.

For preprints, if the signature looks flat and there's no variation in strokes, no depth to the writing, then it's part of the photos. Studio Fan Mail sends out preprints, but others do too, especially if they don't sign your stuff but send you a "signed" photo anyway.

A lot of celebrities who don't sign authentically but send out a "signed" photo will send out a preprint, not an autopen (as you need a special machine.)

Presidents also are most likely to send out preprints or autopens but with a secretarial doing the dedication. Astronaut crew photos, too, have been spotted with autopenned signatures but an inscription in someone else's hand.

Gene Wilder was rumored to have used a secretary, particularly later on as he was getting ill. So is John Travolta, despite an address on his website asking fans to send fan mail to. Avery Brooks is another one; there's one key difference between his secretary and a genuine Brooks.
Thanks for the great post! I was looking for an answer like this :)
mushroom
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Posts: 56
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Re: How to discern PP, AP and authentic autographs?

Post by mushroom »

LARams wrote:
Hartster wrote:For autopens, make a scan or a copy and overlay it with another scan or a copy (especially if the person doesn't sign your stuff, but sends out the same photo to everybody, but may be signed in a different spot.) If it's an autopen, there may be some variation if the machine shifts, but it'll match exactly.

Presidents, government officials and astronauts are the ones most likely to use the autopen.

For preprints, if the signature looks flat and there's no variation in strokes, no depth to the writing, then it's part of the photos. Studio Fan Mail sends out preprints, but others do too, especially if they don't sign your stuff but send you a "signed" photo anyway.

A lot of celebrities who don't sign authentically but send out a "signed" photo will send out a preprint, not an autopen (as you need a special machine.)

Presidents also are most likely to send out preprints or autopens but with a secretarial doing the dedication. Astronaut crew photos, too, have been spotted with autopenned signatures but an inscription in someone else's hand.

Gene Wilder was rumored to have used a secretary, particularly later on as he was getting ill. So is John Travolta, despite an address on his website asking fans to send fan mail to. Avery Brooks is another one; there's one key difference between his secretary and a genuine Brooks.
Thanks for the great post! I was looking for an answer like this :)
mushroom
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Re: How to discern PP, AP and authentic autographs?

Post by mushroom »

mushroom wrote:
LARams wrote:
Hartster wrote:For autopens, make a scan or a copy and overlay it with another scan or a copy (especially if the person doesn't sign your stuff, but sends out the same photo to everybody, but may be signed in a different spot.) If it's an autopen, there may be some variation if the machine shifts, but it'll match exactly.

Presidents, government officials and astronauts are the ones most likely to use the autopen.

For preprints, if the signature looks flat and there's no variation in strokes, no depth to the writing, then it's part of the photos. Studio Fan Mail sends out preprints, but others do too, especially if they don't sign your stuff but send you a "signed" photo anyway.

A lot of celebrities who don't sign authentically but send out a "signed" photo will send out a preprint, not an autopen (as you need a special machine.)

Presidents also are most likely to send out preprints or autopens but with a secretarial doing the dedication. Astronaut crew photos, too, have been spotted with autopenned signatures but an inscription in someone else's hand.

Gene Wilder was rumored to have used a secretary, particularly later on as he was getting ill. So is John Travolta, despite an address on his website asking fans to send fan mail to. Avery Brooks is another one; there's one key difference between his secretary and a genuine Brooks.
Thanks for the great post! I was looking for an answer like this :)
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Re: How to discern PP, AP and authentic autographs?

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