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I sent Yvonne a $200 check for an autograph for a 11x14. I honestly can't tell if what I got back is a sec or a real. I've even got a real one in person in hand and can't tell.

I know I'm about 3 years late to this thread, but I just have a question about secs/real signatures.

How does one know if the signature is a sec or signed by the actual celebrity? Couldn't it be just that they were rushed or that maybe their signature has changed and that's why it doesn't match their recent in person autographs?

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I've never understood how one can tell for certain.

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Figuring out secretarials comes with experience of collecting. Sometimes those experiences are bad. You learn differences in IP v. TTM signatures and see how no matter how many different times a person may really change their signature, ultimately it never looks like the ttm.

Unfortunately, for a lot of deceased stars, we find out they're fake after their deaths. Now, with the internet, we have the opportunity to truly find out information and compare various signatures.

ashleyyx wrote:I know I'm about 3 years late to this thread, but I just have a question about secs/real signatures.

How does one know if the signature is a sec or signed by the actual celebrity? Couldn't it be just that they were rushed or that maybe their signature has changed and that's why it doesn't match their recent in person autographs?

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I've never understood how one can tell for certain.

Thanks

Like the above poster said, it's usually just through experience and comparing known signatures with others.

For example, with my Yvonne Strahovski pics, I had a in-person signed when she had to put my picture up against a handrail to sign it, and it matches the signature exactly with a little private card I received a while back. And it looks exactly like earlier examples of her signature. But newer through the mail (likely secretarial) examples of her signature all look the same (I have a lot of them), and I did consider the possibility that they are rushed signatures, but there are just so many key differences.

But... I do the same thing. I have to sign a lot of things, and my signature depends on how bad I need it to be legible. If it needs to be legible it looks 100000000% different than if I just rush my own signature (which basically has one legible character then a long line.)

Also, with Yvonne, people (myself included) were getting what we all believed to be secretarial signatures from Yvonne for pics we sent to her in California when she was known to be in New York or Australia. No ill will towards her or any celebs who do that. They have no obligation to spend their precious days off signing pictures. God knows I wouldn't.

I sent Doris Day and got the normal sec I guess then sent one to her asking for autograph for my dads 83rd birthday and got back a real one with a little note saying happy birthday so that was cool. My DAD was really tickled. He has been a fan for 50 years.He just loves her.

person's signature whom I've often wondered about is Dick Van Dyke. His TTMs look different than his IPs. The IPs looked more squished whereas the TTMs look less squished and smooth (almost like a woman signed them). No one has ever seemed to question his TTM before, so I don't know if his is likely secretarial or he just signs more slowly TTM and his TTMs are different because of that.

Sofia Vergara is known to reply unusually fast for someone overwhelmed by fan mail as she probably is and rumor has it. (1st red light) I just had a RTS after sending a LOR to her, but before I give it another try, I had a look to the autographs of her online. I searched for what's returned from her addresses posted on this site and what's supposed to be certified autos too. Something doesn't work, because there's too many signature styles (Have a close look to the capital S and the final A). (2nd red light). I see at least 4 styles: the ones at the top Celeb received and with the heart on the letter I, the second is the one on the official Modern Family promo card on the right side, then two or more on the last row. Do we have now the proof that she uses secretary or there's just too many fake autos around?


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Anne Hathaway is currently represented by Studio Fan Mail: it confirms that she' sending PP.

Waited 3+ yrs for Marcia Cross and still ended up with autopen......

It is quite sad that Debbie Reynolds sends out secretarial autographs. She has always put herself on a pedestal as being so nice, but yet she can't be bothered to send authentic autographs through the mail.

If you are going to have a secretary sign for you, then do not even bother having a fan mail address.