MJS73 wrote:PSA/DNA has made their share of mistakes. Here's a clip from one of them:
Hot on the heels of their reported authentication of a fake Ty Cobb signature on a Little League ball made fifteen years after the Hall of Famer died (as reported by us on Deadspin last Friday), PSA/DNA has made another monumental authentication error. A Cobb item appearing on eBay for the past few weeks as an alleged cut signature of Cobb that was certified authentic and graded in one of PSAs air tight encapsulated holders was just pulled by eBay’s Fraud Investigation Team.
There are so many fake Bradshaw autographs they're starting to fail the IP autos. Google Terry Bradshaw ghostsigner and see what you come up with.
o·pin·ion - noun
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
id·i·ot - noun
1. an utterly foolish or senseless person.
Related Words for idiot - cretin, half-wit, imbecile, moron, Hlebian
There are countless examples of MJS73 story happening with PSA and JSA... the two "leaders" and "experts" in the 3rd party
opinion authentication field!
Have you even looked at what a PSA or JSA cert says? In the first sentence or two they both say... "It is in our
opinion". They do not say anything like... "It is 100% factual that this autograph is genuine."
Hlebian it is obvioius you are the one that needs to do the research and find the facts for yourself! Because all PSA and JSA give you are their "opinions". Their opinoins on authenticity are no more correct/fact than those that come from the typical hardcore autograph collector with decades of experience.
Here is a true factual story that I and other collectors have witnessed on many occasions... I am sure when you do some research (outside of Fanmail.biz) and start to educate yourself on the hobby of autograph collecting you will find more stories about this happening with PSA and JSA...
When PSA and JSA do on site authentication at shows, they pass hundreds of fakes each day!!! Here is what happens... Let's say Joe Montana is signing IP at a convention and PSA or JSA is set up at a nearby table to authenticate the items that were signed at the convention. There will be tons of shaddy dealers/collectors who will sneak fake Joe Montana autographed items into the authentication lines, play it off that they were just signed IP at the convention, and have them authenticated by PSA or JSA. They will then go and sell them on ebay at high prices to dumb collectors who don't know any better.
Hlebian, so next time you are on ebay paying big money for PSA or JSA authenticated items, keep that example in mind. As well as all the other negative things you will learn about these two companies through your research.
re·search
1. (Noun) diligent and systematic inquiry or investigation into a subject in order to discover or revise facts, theories, applications
2. (Verb) to make an extensive investigation into: to research a matter thoroughly instead of just using Fanmail.biz
[quote="MJS73"]PSA/DNA has made their share of mistakes. Here's a clip from one of them:
Hot on the heels of their reported authentication of a fake Ty Cobb signature on a Little League ball made fifteen years after the Hall of Famer died (as reported by us on Deadspin last Friday), PSA/DNA has made another monumental authentication error. A Cobb item appearing on eBay for the past few weeks as an alleged cut signature of Cobb that was certified authentic and graded in one of PSAs air tight encapsulated holders was just pulled by eBay’s Fraud Investigation Team.
There are so many fake Bradshaw autographs they're starting to fail the IP autos. Google Terry Bradshaw ghostsigner and see what you come up with.[/quote]
[u][b]o·pin·ion[/b][/u] - noun
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
[u][b]id·i·ot[/b][/u] - noun
1. an utterly foolish or senseless person.
Related Words for idiot - cretin, half-wit, imbecile, moron, Hlebian
There are countless examples of MJS73 story happening with PSA and JSA... the two "leaders" and "experts" in the 3rd party [b][u]opinion[/u][/b] authentication field!
Have you even looked at what a PSA or JSA cert says? In the first sentence or two they both say... "It is in our [b][u]opinion[/b][/u]". They do not say anything like... "It is 100% factual that this autograph is genuine."
Hlebian it is obvioius you are the one that needs to do the research and find the facts for yourself! Because all PSA and JSA give you are their "opinions". Their opinoins on authenticity are no more correct/fact than those that come from the typical hardcore autograph collector with decades of experience.
Here is a true factual story that I and other collectors have witnessed on many occasions... I am sure when you do some research (outside of Fanmail.biz) and start to educate yourself on the hobby of autograph collecting you will find more stories about this happening with PSA and JSA...
When PSA and JSA do on site authentication at shows, they pass hundreds of fakes each day!!! Here is what happens... Let's say Joe Montana is signing IP at a convention and PSA or JSA is set up at a nearby table to authenticate the items that were signed at the convention. There will be tons of shaddy dealers/collectors who will sneak fake Joe Montana autographed items into the authentication lines, play it off that they were just signed IP at the convention, and have them authenticated by PSA or JSA. They will then go and sell them on ebay at high prices to dumb collectors who don't know any better.
Hlebian, so next time you are on ebay paying big money for PSA or JSA authenticated items, keep that example in mind. As well as all the other negative things you will learn about these two companies through your research.
[b][u]re·search [/u][/b]
1. (Noun) diligent and systematic inquiry or investigation into a subject in order to discover or revise facts, theories, applications
2. (Verb) to make an extensive investigation into: to research a matter thoroughly instead of just using Fanmail.biz
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